Informal talks between Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Sri Bijoy Krishna Goswami

8 08 2009
VIJAY: “Don’t the teachings of the Brahmo Samaj bring men salvation?”
Vijay, the Brahmo preacher
Vijay was a paid preacher in the Sadharan Brahmo Samaj, but there were many things about which he could not agree with the Samaj authorities.  He came from a very noble family of Bengal noted for its piety and other spiritual qualities.  Advaita Goswami, one of his remote ancestors, had been an intimate companion of Sri Chaitanya.  Thus the blood of a great lover of God flowed in Vijay’s veins.  As an adherent of the Brahmo Samaj, Vijay no doubt meditated on the formless Brahman; but his innate love of God, inherited from his distinguished ancestors, had merely been waiting for the proper time to manifest itself in all its sweetness.  Thus Vijay was irresistibly attracted by the God-intoxicated state of Sri Ramakrishna and often sought his company.  He would listen to the Master’s words with great respect, and they would dance together in an ecstasy of divine love.
It was a week-day.  Generally devotees came to the Master in large numbers on Sundays; hence those who wanted to have intimate talks with him visited him on week-days.
Bondage removed by strong renunciation
VIJAY: “What must the bound soul’s condition of mind be in order to achieve liberation?”
MASTER: “He can free himself from attachment to ‘woman and gold’ if, by the grace of God, he cultivates a spirit of strong renunciation.  What is this strong renunciation? One who has only a mild spirit of renunciation says, ‘Well, all will happen in the course of time; let me now simply repeat the name of God.’ But a man possessed of a strong spirit of renunciation feels restless for God, as the mother feels for her own child.  A man of strong renunciation seeks nothing but God.  He regards the world as a deep well and feels as if he were going to be drowned in it.  He looks on his relatives as venomous snakes; he wants to fly away from them.  And he does go away.  He never thinks, ‘Let me first make some arrangement for my family and then I shall think of God.’ He has great inward resolution.
(To Vijay) “Come here now and then.  I like to see you very much.”
VIJAY: “I have to do my various duties in the Brahmo Samaj; that is why I can’t always come here.  But I shall visit you whenever I find it possible.”
Difficulties of preaching
MASTER (to Vijay): “The task of a religious teacher is indeed difficult.  One cannot teach men without a direct command from God.  People won’t listen to you if you teach without such authority.  Such teaching has no force behind it.  One must first of all attain God through spiritual discipline or some other means.  Thus armed with authority from God, one can deliver lectures.
“After receiving the command from God, one can be a teacher and give lectures anywhere.  He who receives authority from God also receives power from Him.  Only then can he perform the difficult task of a teacher.
“An insignificant tenant was once engaged in a lawsuit with a big landlord.  People realized that there was a powerful man behind the tenant.  Perhaps another big landlord was directing the case from behind.  Man is an insignificant creature.  He cannot fulfil the difficult task of a teacher without receiving power direct from God.”
MASTER: “How is it ever possible for one man to liberate another from the bondage of the world? God alone, the Creator of this world-bewitching maya, can save men from maya.  There is no other refuge but that great Teacher, Satchidananda.  How is it ever possible for men who have not realized God or received His command, and who are not strengthened with divine strength, to save others from the prison-house of the world?
“One day as I was passing the Panchavati on my way to the pine-grove, I heard a bullfrog croaking.  I thought it must have been seized by a snake.  After some time, as I was coming back, I could still hear its terrified croaking.  I looked to see what was the matter, and found that a water-snake had seized it.  The snake could neither swallow it nor give it up.  So there was no end to the frog’s suffering.  I thought that had it been seized by a cobra it would have been silenced after three croaks at the most.  As it was only a water-snake, both of them had to go through this agony.  A man’s ego is destroyed after three croaks, as it were, if he gets into the clutches of a real teacher.  But if the teacher is an ‘unripe’ one, then both the teacher and the disciple undergo endless suffering.  The disciple cannot get rid either of his ego or of the shackles of the world.  If a disciple falls into the clutches of an incompetent teacher, he doesn’t attain liberation.”

Jai Nitai!

There are a number of  exchanges that took place between Bijoy Krishna Goswami and Ramakrishna Paramahamsa. I will soon tell a story that took place at Ariadaha near Dakshineswar where Sri Ramakrishna greatly inspired Sri Bijoy Krishna Goswami on the bhakti-marg. I just acquired a copy of The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna and thought I would share a discussion or two.

Bijoy Krishna Goswami as a preacher for the Brahma Samaj

Bijoy Krishna Goswami as a preacher for the Brahma Samaj

Bijoy was a paid preacher in the Sadharan Brahmo Samaj, but there were many things about which he could not agree with the Samaj authorities.  He came from a very noble family of Bengal noted for its piety and other spiritual qualities.  Sri Advaita Acharya was one of his direct ancestors, thus the blood of a great lover of God flowed in Bijoy’s veins.  As an adherent of the Brahmo Samaj, Bijoy no doubt meditated on the formless Brahman; but his innate love of God, inherited from his distinguished ancestors, had merely been waiting for the proper time to manifest itself in all its sweetness.  Thus Bijoy was irresistibly attracted by the God-intoxicated state of Sri Ramakrishna and often sought his company.  He would listen to the Master’s words with great respect, and they would dance together in an ecstasy of divine love.

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa

It was a week-day.  Generally devotees came to the Master in large numbers on Sundays; hence those who wanted to have intimate talks with him visited him on week-days.

Bondage removed by strong renunciation

Bijoy: “What must the bound soul’s condition of mind be in order to achieve liberation?”

Ramakrishna: “He can free himself from attachment to ‘woman and gold’ if, by the grace of God, he cultivates a spirit of strong renunciation.  What is this strong renunciation? One who has only a mild spirit of renunciation says, ‘Well, all will happen in the course of time; let me now simply repeat the name of God.’ But a man possessed of a strong spirit of renunciation feels restless for God, as the mother feels for her own child.  A man of strong renunciation seeks nothing but God.  He regards the world as a deep well and feels as if he were going to be drowned in it.  He looks on his relatives as venomous snakes; he wants to fly away from them.  And he does go away.  He never thinks, ‘Let me first make some arrangement for my family and then I shall think of God.’ He has great inward resolution.

(To Bijoy) “Come here now and then.  I like to see you very much.”

Bijoy: “I have to do my various duties in the Brahmo Samaj; that is why I can’t always come here.  But I shall visit you whenever I find it possible.”

“Don’t the teachings of the Brahmo Samaj bring men salvation?”

Difficulties of preaching

Ramakrishna: “The task of a religious teacher is indeed difficult.  One cannot teach men without a direct command from God.  People won’t listen to you if you teach without such authority.  Such teaching has no force behind it.  One must first of all attain God through spiritual discipline or some other means.  Thus armed with authority from God, one can deliver lectures. “After receiving the command from God, one can be a teacher and give lectures anywhere.  He who receives authority from God also receives power from Him.  Only then can he perform the difficult task of a teacher. “How is it ever possible for one man to liberate another from the bondage of the world? God alone, the Creator of this world-bewitching maya, can save men from maya.  There is no other refuge but that great Teacher, Satchidananda.  How is it ever possible for men who have not realized God or received His command, and who are not strengthened with divine strength, to save others from the prison-house of the world?

“One day as I was passing the Panchavati on my way to the pine-grove, I heard a bullfrog croaking.  I thought it must have been seized by a snake.  After some time, as I was coming back, I could still hear its terrified croaking.  I looked to see what was the matter, and found that a water-snake had seized it.  The snake could neither swallow it nor give it up.  So there was no end to the frog’s suffering.  I thought that if it had  been seized by a cobra it would have been silenced after three croaks at the most.  As it was only a water-snake, both of them had to go through this agony.  A man’s ego is destroyed after three croaks, as it were, if he gets into the clutches of a real teacher. But if the teacher is an ‘unripe’ one, then both the teacher and the disciple undergo endless suffering.  The disciple cannot get rid either of his ego or of the shackles of the world.  If a disciple falls into the clutches of an incompetent teacher, he doesn’t attain liberation.”


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23 07 2011
Nilangshu Ghosal (Raja)

JoyGuru, Joy Gosai ji, Joy Guruji,

I am a devotee/disciple since a child, who had diksha from Sri Digeshananda Sarawati (ashram in Ghola, Sodepur – Kolkata) under in the Gosai dharma/tutelage. Long since i wondered to read/learn/understand, insights into the life and times of him, or gain insights into further religious discourses by Gosai Ji – but failed or perhaps was discouraged due to my inability in comprehending bengali (english had been my first language throughout and all/any required discourse is always through the same medium).

Would ardently thank you for your blog that really gave me this opportunity and feel lucky to have discovered the same.

JoyGuru, Joy Gosai ji, Joy Guruji
Nilangshu Ghosal (Raja)
nilangshu@yahoo.com

1 09 2011
anand

importent information about shri shri vijay krishna jai jai shri hari naam bhagwan ki.

15 01 2012
ShantiPriya

Keep on wit d g8 work! :)

15 01 2012
Sakhicharan Das

Jai Nitai!

Glad you enjoyed the post!

10 09 2013
Anik bhattacharyya

Thanks for creating this.. it will b a great pleasure to know more things about sadguru bhagwan sri gosai ji..

10 09 2013
Sakhicharan Das

Joy Nitai!

You are most welcome. I hope you find other articles to your liking.

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